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never been stronger. >> what's the matter? >> i'm confused. >> forget about it. >> i don't think there's any mystery about what will happen next. >> the point is, ladies and gentlemen, that greed for lack of a better word, is good. >> when does the greed stop? >> big banks are the real parasites. >> i know which is right for new york. >> good to have you with us. thanks for watching "the ed show." if you have been watching this program over the last month, you know that i have paid a great deal of tang to what is going on in the city of detroit. because i have put out a narrative and now it is being played out by the biggest mayor in america. that there is going to be a template by conservative elected leaders, governors, mayors, when it comes the dealing with obligations, and of course, the running they'll is, well, it is the workers' fault. this man right here go he is the

first one to take the bait. that is the mayor of the richest city in america. he says that saving, saying public workers, their pensions, public workers' pensions, could put new york in the same boat as detroit? isn't that a little extreme? come on. this week new york city mayor michael bloomberg gave a speech blaming special interests politics for detroit's collapse. >> the forces that can stop the city can be internal. not just external. short sightedness, corruption, mismanage many, and perhaps most dangerous of all, special interest politics. of course, over the course of several did he go aids, we saw all of those factors at work in detroit. >> what we're seeing here is a comparison. as i said in previous programs, you are going to see mayors across the country use detroit as the example. see what they did wrong. we can't have that happen in our

city. by the way we're paying our workes too much money. their pensions are too high. they're special interests. did you know in new york city, the mayor thinks if you've paid into a pension plan for the last 30 years, you're special interest! do you see anything paralleling here between new york and detroit, michigan, and the state of michigan? let's see. you have snyder, the governor in michigan, mayor bloomberg, new york city, a couple rich guys, a couple of corporates in setting up the narrative that you're the problem. bloomberg went on to compare new york city's public pensions to detroit's pensions issues. >> in new york city, that risk is still very real. the explosion and health care costs. to put the problem in context, in the fiscal year 2012, when we

came into office, new york city's pension costs were 1.4 billion. by fiscal 2009, even after one of the strongest bull markets we've ever seen and before any impact from the financial meltdown, pension costs had grown to $6.9 billion. >> so the mayor of new york city serg making the case that retired workers keep getting more and more and more money? no. it's health care. it is health care which is breaking our economy. it is obamacare that has potentially to be put into a position to save our economy if we can full bore universal health care. but of course, that's way down the road. hear in new york, public workers are not the problem. in this case, it is this man. mayor bloomberg. he has not taken care of the problem. he is trying to make public workers pay more into their health care earned retirement funds using detroit as a scare

tactic. he doesn't want anybody else, the wealthiest residents of this city, to do a little bit more. he is willing to protect others. bloomberg believes that new york city's firefighters, police officers and teachers. they're the problem. i offer to you tonight that he is dead wrong on this. meanwhile, what is he doing? he is protecting his buddies down wall street. you see just last week, he took shot at form he u.s. governor elliot spitzer. he said if he is elected new york city comptroller, it is not his job to investigate problems on wall street. do we have an admission from the mayor that there are problems on wall street? the mayor needs to learn that you cannot trust wall street. there are no guarantees. under bloomberg, we have seen the financial collapse of 2008. he stood silent. if the mayor would step forward

and say investment banks need to be stood up, i think it would have a pretty big impact. but he has not done that. he has let wall street run amok. and thanks to immoral, financial practices, greedy people and down manhattan have ruined countless american lives. bloomberg is workers like firefighters who save lives. not destroy them. now if anything, that i believe bloomberg should be taxing the massive profits made on wall street to provide these health care costs and requirement costs, that the city is obligated the pay to these workers who have put in no less than 30 years. we only praise them when there is a disaster. let's go back to 2012 alone. wall street paid out a whopping $20 billion in cash bonuses alone. i say, tax the profits instead of paying out these absurd

bonuses. and institute a transaction tax in manhattan. or maybe a quarter cent sales tax. try it for one year to see what kind of money comes in. do something a little different instead of protecting the wealthiest residents in this city, instead of going out and blaming boringers. this is the kind of money that's just blocks away from this studio and it is floating from peel who shuffle paper. who work the phone. who do the internet themselves shuffle the paper. the financial sector. they don't provide any services to the city. they're not protecting the city. can they pay more? i believe the mayor said wall street is going through roof. corporate profits through the roof. income and equality is a big issue in this country. but somehow i think the obama administration has forgotten that narrative. they need a refresher course. in bloomberg's speech, he also said, if retirement costs continue to skyrocket, it could

affect the quality of life here in new york city. >> the more a city spends on wages and benefits over what the marg place determines is necessary for recruitment, retention and experience, the less a city can invest in benefits for all of its residents. the less it invests in thing that again fits all residents, the less attractive place it is to live and visit. >> less, less, less. as long we give the wealthy more, more, more. bloomberg is living on the moon. he needs to remember new york city is great today because the workers put their lives on the day as safe as it is. if you hurt police officers and firefighters, the quality of life will hurt the entire city. now, i will say that living in new york, i feel safe. i think the residents appeal the safe. and i feel embarrassed to think there is actually a mayor coming

out saying, workers aren't doing enough. that's what he said this week. our obligations to them are too much. i did not hear any of that after september 11, 2001. finally he made another comparison between new york and detroit that is truly unbelievable. >> avoiding the hard troiss is how detroit went bankrupt and it is the road to ryan for any city. >> it is. it sure is. with holding money from a city, in from a state government is really sinful. this is totally disingenuous and off the mark. mayor bloomberg is the one avoiding the hard choices. the mayor has failed to renegotiate contracts with city boringers. who knows? maybe the unions would take a benefit change. they're not coming to the table to try to screw anybody. in some cases it has been years since public workers have been under contract in the city. the result is the current dispute between the city government and the public unions is real.

and he is running away saying, well, the next guy better not be too friendly to the unions. it is always the unions, isn't it? never the wealthiest paper shufflers down the street. mayor bloomberg is leaving it up to the successor to fix the mess that he really never addressed. income inequality is just as real here as anywhere else in the country. and he is taking the narrative from detroit, michigan. it is okay if a city goes bankrupt. as long as we can break the unions, screw the workers and blame it on them and let the rich people run free i can tell you if. this guy is the media darling. he may be one of the toughest media commentaries that has ever been blistered on this guy but dam it, he deserves it. he the people who have worked in the city for 30 years and earned a pension. this narrative that the

conservatives are playing out, now in the richett city in america, you know what? you are the problem the biggest voting bloc, the biggest social networking machine the democrats have is organized labor. they're doing everything they can to destroy it across this country. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. does mayor michael bloomberg care more about wall street? or workers? you can always go to our blog at msnbc.com and leave a comment there. we'll bring you the results later in the show. how do you turn your back on an american worker? how do you make the case to the public that people that are willing to go into burk buildings to save other people, that maybe at the end of the day, they're really not worth that much. at the end of decades of service

to a city. i'll tell you what. you have to be a filthy rich guy to have that kind of an attitude. for more, let's turn to new york city democrating mayoral candidate, bill, good to have you with us. >> good to be here. >> mayor bloomberg says new york city was paying $1.4 billion for pensions in 2002. by 2009 it was $6.9 billion. first of all, is this number correct? and why is it that number in. >> we've seen real growth in the money we have to put into pension on the gagss but a lot of that was the decisions michael bloomberg made. he will always talk about what workers have done wrong. when talk about taxing the wealthy, i pr pose a tax on people make ahalf million or more. i said let's do it for our schools, let's do it for our children. we know thousands of children are being left behind.

he said it was the most ridiculous thing he ever heard. >> what if we turned to mayor bloomberg and say i think you own too much. i know you didn't he shall it like the workers did, right? you're special. come. on let's talk about fairness here fairness has left the building. see the million of dollars paid out over my administration, this is wrong. this is what we've got to stop. >> he is in the vanguard of that group that says no more define benefit pensions. they want to go to a system where we let the market decide. just like social security and just as dangerous. the bottom line is these hard working people, they earn these pensions. it is a way we protect people's retirement. we help create stability in our society. but he adamantly oppose that's and opposes any effort to address inequality with a tax on the wealthy. >> my solution, and i rail on the mayor. i rail on the city.

it is a transaction tax. why are we afraid to tax every transaction on wall street for the benefit of this city? they enjoy the safety. they take home the billions. $20 billion in bonus money. come on. why are we afraid to do that? or what would you do? >> i think there is a set of options. i think income tax is the first one. i believe that. i think we can do it most quickly and effectively and use to it save our school systems. there is commuter tax that was taken away and should be there. people come into the city, almost 3 million people a year, a day, and they don't pay for the services they get do you think this is an attack on workers? he is the first mayor to take bait. >> it is a theiry. it is a fact. i think it is union busting with a velvet glove. he may not sound like scott walker. he may not sound like kasich or

christie but it is the same effect and it constantly takes the onus off the wealthy and puts on it working people. >> he says the next mayor if it is union friendly, fees will go up. if you were elected, are you going to be union friendly? >> absolutely. i believe the labor movement of the city is not only working in the interests of the people a lot of folks don't get paid so well. i wish it was facetious. some even live in the shelter. there are city workers who are not paid enough that they can make ends meet in new york city. some even live in a shelter. of course they're doing their job. >> has the mayor kicked the can down the road? he has protected the wealthy in the city and he is not going to the level of fairness needed to keep one the expenses. >> for a guy who likes to talk about fiscal responsibility, he is the first mayor in our history to leave every city labor contract unresolved

simultaneously which puts our future in danger. >> all part of the plan. >> it could be. it is part of his legacy to avoid the tough decisions on the contracts so he could have a sunny ending to his administration. i wish he would admit that it was an responsible thing to do. >> good to have you with us on the ed show. remember tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. answer that, please. and share your thoughts with us. we always want to know what you think. coming up, powerball made some new millionaires in new jersey while some old millionaires held secret meetings in the desert. and the rnc chairman gives a new hillary documentary two thumbs down. [ male announcer ] if you've run out of tissues and considered other things...

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>> they're the financial engine of the financial movement. funding conservative and libertarian causes. >> the koch brothers are the wonder boys. . >> joining me now, john nichols. let me get this straight. as soon as congress goes on break, we have paul ryan and eric canner hopping a maybe and going to take orders and meeting with the big boys in new mexico? is that the way it came down? >> that's the way it came down. somehow paul ryan found a route back to wisconsin that led through albuquerque, new mexico. and he and eric cantor who are arguably the two most powerful republicans in the u.s. house, john boehner's often the spectator, they got on this plane. they flew down to new mexico as soon as the house went out of sex.

they checked in to one of the most elite resorts in the southwest which had been rented top to bottom by the koch brothers. here they are two of the most powerful people in congress sitting with two of the wealthiest men in america. a lot of the allies and other folks. and nobody who wasn't part of this behind closed doors meeting was allowed in. so when reporters came, they were block by security a mile away from the hotel. no one would acknowledge who was there. so it is really quite a remarkable thing. >> so why was there -- eric caber has been really been in the koch family so to speak. why is it important he was there? >> well, these are the two republicans in the house who really are the power forces. >> are they at odds? >> at times they are, yes. because they both wanted to be the king of this hill. le people think paul ryan will try for president again in 2016.

that's possible. this is a lot of betting that both really want to be the speaker of the house. and so each of them wants to have the koch brothers connection remember, the koch brothers are primary funders of campaigns. >> so very exclusive, very secluded. how does joe average on the street read this in. >> well, technically, they were supposed to give addresses or remarks. you don't go for these things in the speeches. it is the wheeling and dealing it is behind closed doors, sitting around the pool, having your massages. what we have to take away from this is before these guys went home to meet with their constituents and have town hall meetings in august, they race

down to be with the koch brothers to talk about political strategy and agenda. i don't know how else the average citizen can see it. >> and there was an interesting develop many in paul ryan's district as late as the statement made. >> this is fascinating. paul ryan was down in new mexico with two of the wealthiest campaign donors in manager. in the largest city in his district, kenosha, wisconsin, the city council voted officially to ask the congress of the united states to overturn the citizens united ruling and to get big money out of politics. the question is this. will paul ryan listen to kenosha, wisconsin, or will he listen to the koch brothers? >> i think we know the answers to that. and they believe he is the rising star even though he was a loser on the last ticket. fair enough? >> it is fair enough. they have always loved paul ryan. in fact, back in 2012 there was a lot of talk that the final

thing that got paul ryan on the ticket was the encouragement and the strong support of the koch brothers. what this meeting in new mexico was, a reaffirmation. >> so any success of the republicans has to go through koch brothers office. that's the way it seems to be shaken. it is very interesting the people in the middle of the country in kenosha, wisconsin, make a statement about citizens united. this is something that i would think local media would challenge paul ryan. on does he stand with the people kenosha? or does he stand with the koch brothers? you know they're not in favor of changing citizens united. coming up, find out where paula deen is still getting lots of support. and the fight for fair wages hits the nation's capital. we'll show you how d.c.'s proposed law is putting a big box store right in the corner. next, i'll taking your questions.

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i have to set a debate calendar that has the best interests of our party and nominees in mind. if i have nbc doing a mini series with die an lane starring on behalf, on portraying hillary clinton on a four-day mini series, it makes my choice of moderators much easier. >> welcome back to the ed shoe. reince priebus would like all of us to believe that he is threatening to boycott nbc and cnn in the run up to the 2016 election because of planned projects on hillary clinton.

however, it might just be a convenient excuse. take a look at the rnc's 100-page attempt to explain why they lost in 2012. one suggestion found the growth and opportunity post election moratorium, the number of debates should be reduced by roughly half. you mean they don't want to compete? i thought these were private sector guys that love competition. it is clear. the conservatives, the republicans, they are concerned about a poor debate performance because they're shaky on the issues. that's the bottom line. they've even got a record to prove it. >> rick, again -- >> i'm speaking. >> i'm speaking. i'm speaking. >> you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here. >> congressman -- >> are you saying that society should let him die? >> no. >> governor used a material earlier that i shrink from. and it is one that i don't think

we should be using as republicans. middle class. there are no classes in america. >> you can't name the third one? >> the third agency of government. i would do away with education, the -- commerce -- and let's see. i can't. the third one, i can't. sorry. oops! >> rick -- i don't think i've ever hired an illegal in my life. >> my question is under one of your presidencies do you attempt to circumvent the progress made for gay and lesbian soldiers in the military? >> i get 60 seconds. >> and then you get 30 seconds to respond, right? anderson? >> would you please wait? are you going to keep talking. >> yes, sir. >> are you going to let me finish? >> do you know what reince priebus wants to do? he wants to take away your entertainment. who could want less of that? joining me now, our rapid

response panel. i mean, this is just depriving us of entertainment, isn't it? >> bring it on. we need it. >> okay, obviously there is embarrassment there. >> yes. he is trying to hide his candidates. he is going to have a crack pot set of candidates in 2016 like he had in 2012 and he is afraid of that. he is a big cry baby and he is playing to the base. he is telling the base, the horrible liberty ral media is after us again and he is kind of winning for now. he is getting a lot of attention. it is a slow summer and he gets to look like a hero to the base when he won't pull his candidates out. his candidates won't go along with it. he has pretty much no power to do it. >> they're wigged out early on over hillary clinton. >> right. he has good reason to be. he needs to be more focused on his candidates and winning elections instead of trying the deprive us of our entertainment.

i want more debates. i want a debate every day. it is amazing. maybe we drink too much from the drinking games that we play during the debates but they're amazing. >> i've seen you in action. the crowd always wants more, okay? >> oh, it's, i personally cannot believe it can get -- i didn't think it could get worse. then you have steve king thinking he can probably do it. the people who think they're qualified to do anything that is going to consist of this flotilla that will be the gop nominees. it is great. i need a beach house. i want more debates. is it a good strategy? there is conservative media that would sell the base, motivate the base. it would in a sense pregnant there are candidates and put them in more of a safe haven. >> it a good political strategy right now because it is getting

to look tough. it is a stupid strategy. they have a lot of newcomers. they should be wanting to introduce them to the larger world but they don't. they want to be in their hermetically sealed universe will. >> it will be a really sticky situation for him if it does turn out the production arm of fox is the one producing one of the hillary clinton things. because then it is going on roll out to be the real thing. cnn is a problem, it's a network. so rins priebus has to be the ones to explain, well, fofl has a division of tv -- >> on the political side, they've had a rough year all on the aggressive american purchases have been put out when it come to the right to choose. workers' rights, equal rights, all the voting rights. i don't think they want to talk about this. >> they definitely don't want a documentary about hillary

clinton who would be the person on the left running in 2016 that will be able to speak to all these issues and energize the feminist base of the left. and i think that they're afraid. clearly they're afraid. that's why he is having a temper tantrum on tv in august of 2013. because he is afraid will. >> what does it look like the network is doing these series on hillary is it going to be hard for the public to accept this is news, this is a documentary? it will confuse the public in. >> on the nbc side, they may contract with fofl entertainment. it is an entertainment project that will become clear.x entert. it is an entertainment project that will become clear. and charles is running the project. i would consider him on the left and he is probably somebody who is sort of skeptical of, though she is a liberal, she is a corporate democrat. i don't see that as being a puff piece about hillary. >> our next to havic. public policy polling asks the

residents of georgia their opinions about current and historical figures according to the results, georgia republicans are more likely to approve of paula. i is what i is deen than civil rights hero. 73% have a positive view while only 59% have a favorable opinion of dr. king. liz? where is georgia on the map? >> i think that any american who is average likes anybody who will provide them with fried food over a great civil rights leader. i think we have just come to that as a fact. it is very sad. maybe if martin luther king wrote letters about a sandwich. >> i'm not surprised. i always said barack obama should have done education reform above anything else. the public is -- i bet most of

those people did not know who martin luther king waux paula deen, she makes really delicious food. and marine luther king, this is some guy we have a day off from school. >> he doesn't fry my food. >> what does this say about the entrenched thinking of republicans in the south? >> i think there is a white grievance in this country. there are a lot of people who think paula deen wasn't treated farley and she was one of us and brought down for some ill considered comments. to some people she became a folk hero. so it is sad. >> our last topic. right wing conspiracy blogger, eric erickson on tuesdayering revealed his true sexist colors yet again. he is feeling the heat after calling texas wendy davis abortion barbie. your response? >> well, this is also the man who when texas decided to make

abortion and repalm beach county i have the access really, really next to impossible for poor women, put a link to a hanger website up as a joke. if there was abortion barbie, if we'll do the doll metaphor, then he is like gi slow. you know? honestly, it is just -- >> i could do more push-ups than eric erickson. i would like to put that out there. maybe i can challenge him and see who is more of a man. >> he is terrified of us. >> thanks so much. tonight in our survey i asked, does mayor michael bloomberg care more about wall street or workers? 94% of you say wall street. 6% say workers. you 6%, you need to wake up earlier. up next, i'll explain why republicans shouldn't be too invested in a 2016 run for this pretender. the postal service is critical to our economy. delivering mail, medicine and packages, yet they're closing thousands of offices,

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walmart is threatening to pull the plug on at least three stores in the area if it is forced to pay employees their, quote, living wage. >> this is not a walmart -- >> walmart is unfairly being portrayed as the bad guy. >> even at $8.50, they could double their income with these jobs. and you've denied it from them. i don't know how you can look constituents in the face. >> well, walmart and fox news are freaking out because washington, d.c.'s city council, passed a living wage bill which could set a new standard nationwide. it would force big box stores to pay $11.75 to workers. it applies only to parent companies making more than $1 billion per year. walmart recorded almost $470 billion in gross sales last year. if walmart allows collective bargaining, it can ignore the wage restriction in d.c. neighborhood leaders say they welcome walmart as long as it

pays workers a living wage. >> everybody here is making money except the people who live in washington, d.c. [ applause ] >> if there's going to be prosperity, count us in. count us in. if there's going to be a paycheck, count us in! >> walmart is throwing a multimillion dollar tantrum and threatening to vacate the d.c. area if the bill is signed into law. joining me now, a man who has been fighting forecast workers rights in washington, d.c., reverend graylan hagler. great to have you on the show tonight. thank you for the work you do on behalf of working americans. what do you think is going to do? do you think the mayor will sign this? do you think that walmart will leave? >> well, we have a meeting with the mayor this coming tuesday and we're going to push him to

sign the legislation when it reaches his desk. >> you want him to sign it. this is the right thing to do, right? >> sign it. it's the right thing to do. it's $12.50 minus benefits. minus benefits. that means someone being paid $10 an hour can add $2 to pension or something like that. people can't afford to live in washington, d.c. the value of rents are going up. the ability in the city has increased so drastically that people are being forced out. we're saying you have to make an investment in the neighborhood. if you don't invest in the neighborhood, what good is economic expansion if average people don't benefit? >> washington, d.c., could lose 1800 jobs if walmart pulls out. are you worried about that? do you think another store would come in and fill that void and hire workers at the wage you're talking about? >> well, i think what we're looking at, we've got 60 cranes on any given day in operation in d.c., building luxury condos, new office buildings, new apartments. you've got 1,000 families a month moving into washington, d.c.

that's a growing base. that's a growing customer base. every single big box store wants to come in to that type of environment. and in fact, what we call the bill is the large retailer accountability act because it not only applies to walmart, but it applies to every single retailer that operates in stores of 75,000 square feet or more. and whose parent company earns $1 billion in revenues or more, that they have to pay the living wage. >> reverend, what do you say to those who have been on record who is saying that walmart is being picked on here, that walmart is the villain? what do you say to that? >> well, i'm saying that walmart, yes, is the worst offender out there. they wanted to make this battle about them. this battle is not just about them. this battle is about economic justice in the city. economic justice in washington, d.c. that working families should be able to afford to live in the city, to shop in the city, and to raise their families in the city. and right now, they are being forced out. and walmart, whose ceo earns on average $11,000 an hour, is

squabbling over paying a mere $12.50 to workers in washington, d.c., minus benefits. that's shameful. outrageous. >> could they afford it? i don't mean to ask -- i mean, i have to ask the pointed question. can walmart afford this? >> that's the issue. we're saying those who can most afford to pay it should. in my gospel, it says to those whom much has been given, much is required. to those to whom much has been entrusted, even more is demanded. step up to the plate and be good corporate citizens. >> this could be a template, possibly. you think this could have a ripple effect, that other cities might follow this if this goes through? i'm sure walmart is thinking if it goes through here, it could happen wherever we have stores across america. >> i think every single city is watching this battle very closely. we are saying to the mayor, how can you be about autonomy when it comes to congress, asking for a vote on the hill, and then

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